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We have a business view that points to a table with 100 million rows. When we run a query in InfoAssist on that table, it runs fine. Mostly answers within 10 seconds, using DB2 with IDAA (accelerator).
When running this as Insight outside InfoAssist it is slow. Building up a chart or report takes time, filtering is slow. DB2 with IDAA is also used in that environment.
Why is the performance of Insight worse then using plain InfoAssist?? What can we do about it, because for the user this is no way of working. Takes too long.
Are there other possible ways of filtering using Insight?

The business view contains a lot of fields. We don't want to use all the fields in Insight, we don't want to show them to the user.
What we can do is build a second version of the business view with less fields, but is there a way of just using the same business view, but showing less fields?

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Ron

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is there a way of just using the same business view, but showing less fields?


The answer is yes for most of the buttons on the Insight Shelf except Filter. When creating the chart in InfoAssist, Create parameters for Horizontal, Vertical and Color. (Right click, New parameter) Then place only the columns you want in the parameters. If you turn on Insight, these are the only columns you'll see which obviates the need for creating an alternate master file. HOWEVER, I've not yet figure out how to do the same thing for Filters. When you click on Filter, every single field in the master will be listed. Frowner

I know you probably don't want to maintain duplicate master files for the same table, but it seems to me that's the way to go.


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Ok.
If you have made for instance a parameter containing multiple measures, can the user then chose a subset of the measures when making a chart/report with Insight, or does he always have to chose them all?


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Once you parameterize the columns only the columns you placed in the parameter will be available within Insight.


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Ok Babak, I understand.
But suppose I have a parameter with 5 attributes. Must I then chose all 5 aattributes, so the whole parameter, when making a report in Insight, or can I choose individual attributes from the parameter?

By the way, I just build a parameter in InfoAssist. When running it within InfoAssist it says something like 'required parameter missing' Frowner

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Ron


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Let’s say you created a parameter for the Horizontal bar and place 4 dimensions in it: YEAR, QUARTER, MONTH, DAY. When you run an Insight enabled chart like that, first you’ll get prompted to select one of these 4 parameters. The selection you make will be the field used for Horizontal axis to start with at run time. But if you click on that column on the Insight Shelf, you’ll see QUARTER, MONTH and DAY as alternative columns you can pick for your Insight session.

I’m not quite sure how you ended up with that error.


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Ok, will try this tomorrow at work. Thnx for all your help!


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It works, thnx.
A pity that it does not (yet) work for Filters

Parameter did not work, because under Administration Console, Parameter Prompting the value of Managed Reporting was 'Off' instead ‘Run with default values’. To be honest I don't know what the effect of changing this will be on the existing fexes.


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@BabakNYC, can you say something about this?

We have a business view that points to a table with 100 million rows. When we run a query in InfoAssist on that table, it runs fine. Mostly answers within 10 seconds, using DB2 with IDAA (accelerator).
When running this as Insight outside InfoAssist it is slow. Building up a chart or report takes time, filtering is slow. DB2 with IDAA is also used in that environment.
Why is the performance of Insight worse then using plain InfoAssist?? What can we do about it, because for the user this is no way of working. Takes too long.
Are there other possible ways of filtering using Insight?


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Ronibi

I think you need to open with techsupport case on this. They will probably need traces to debug why it is running slow.


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