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Hi all,

Not really a WebFOCUS question, build I would like to have your opinion.

We're now reporting on a Oracle 9i DWH. The fact table is about 35,000,000 records. The performance is not good (30 seconds - 10 minutes to retrieve 700 rows)

All keys in this fact table are VARCHAR and indexes are on these varchars. I know that alfanumeric / natural keys should be in the dimension and the fact table should only contain numeric surrogated keys with preferable bitmap indexes.

Another thing is that every column has a seperate index. I think multi column indexes would be a better option since some columns are always queried. But I'm not sure what's preferable in Oracle.

I want your opinion if this using of varchar's and indexes on varchars in the fact table has a big influence on performance. And if multi column indexes would be better that 15 different single comlumn indexes.

Thanks


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Frans,

If performance is slow be sure you check the SQL being generated by WebFOCUS using the following commands to view the SQL. You want the database to do as much of the work as possible at that's what they are good for. You only want to see 1 SQL statement. make sure that your where statements are being passed to the RDBMS.

SET TRACEOFF=ALL
SET TRACEON=STMTRACE//CLIENT
SET TRACEON=SQLAGGR//CLIENT
SET TRACEUSER=ON
SET XRETRIEVAL=OFF


Hope this helps.

PS:If you send the SQL thru SQLPlus how does it perform?

Scott




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Frans,

I would also check to see how many defines are being done on the Tables. It may be much faster to first extract the data, save as a hold file and then do all youy defines on the hold file.


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Hi TexasStingray and RSquared,

I've checked the SQL which is generated by WebFOCUS and also put in in the analyzer tool from Oracle. The analyser tool didn't have any SQL improvement suggestions. All fields in the selection have an index.

My query is like this:
WHERE T1.HOUSE ='0058'
AND T1.LOCATION='LNL'
AND(T1.SUBMIT BETWEEN 24091 AND 24097
AND T1.TYPE =9
OR T1.SUBMIT = 24098
AND T1.START >= 24098
AND T1.START <= 24102);

There are no defines or sorts messing up anything so I guess this is not a FOCUS problem.

Any suggestions?


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Frans,

Have you tried to change your selection to separate the where clauses. I find the combination of 'and's and 'or's confusing.

Do you want either when thes conditions are met
T1.SUBMIT BETWEEN 24091 AND 24097
AND T1.TYPE =9
or when these coditions are met
T1.SUBMIT = 24098
AND T1.START >= 24098
AND T1.START <= 24102

or something different?


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Hi RSquared,

First I want all records with house 0058 and location LNL.

From that recordset I only want records with submit between 24091 and 24097 and type 9

Or records which have a submit of 24098 and have a start between 24098 and 24102

Is this more clear?


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Frans,

In that case you can try to either change your code to
WHERE T1.HOUSE ='0058'
AND T1.LOCATION='LNL'
WHERE(T1.SUBMIT BETWEEN 24091 AND 24097
AND T1.TYPE =9)
OR (T1.SUBMIT = 24098
AND T1.START >= 24098
AND T1.START <= 24102);
Or
Extract to a hold file using the first Where WHERE T1.HOUSE ='0058'
AND T1.LOCATION='LNL'
and then apply the second logic to the hold file.


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RSquared,

Adding another WHERE in WebFOCUS will change it to AND in SQL code to Oracle.

Retrieving data without the date selection results in 10K+ rows, so unfortunately no performance improvement Frowner


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Did you try adding the brackets to separate the two conditions.


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Hi Frans

Used to be an Oracle dba for a bit with Oracle dwh. Can you check that you do not have bitmap indicies (recommended by Oracle but they do not work at all well) and try replacing them with conventional indicies to see if that works.

btw if you want performance x20 of Oracle build your dwh as XFOCUS. I guess probably not practical in terms of time and resource but worth knowing you can get this level of performance if needed.

Regards John.



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Hi John,

This statement uses nested loops on 1 unique index, 1 range scan. A hash join with 2 full table scans (this takes very little performance cost (7) will the nested loops take take 4516 cost)

I've made a virtual index in the analyzer tool, and a bitmapped index show a lot of estimated improvement?

I'll try to do a test and put it in XFOCUS, I'm curious what the results will be....


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You may need to check the licensing implications of using XFOCUS and more importantly Multi-Dimensional Indices with your local Information Builders Office.

Thanks,
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Would not bother immediately with XFOCUS since you'll have to use hierarchial design principles to get the speed.

The point about the bitmaps is that they DONT work very well in 9i. I would advise trying it WITHOUT the Bitmap indicies to see if it improves. It shouldn't take too long to rebuild them as btree and try the query again.



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ptp, I can create XFOCUS right now, so I guess the license would be OK.


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Frans,

When you run it thru SQLPlus, how long does the request take. then try just running the request thru WebFOCUS and not create the focus db just dump it to a file or something how long does it take. the time may be in creating the FOCUS database.

tex




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FYI - being "able" to do something and being "licensed" to do something are NOT the same thing. You are "able" to configure as many data adapters as you want, but if you are not licensed for them and get caught, it's lights out.


Regards,

Darin



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Actually, Darin, you can't do that anymore either at least on AIX. The Reporting server license key has 4 parts now instead of 3 and the last one regulates how many adapters you can configure. If you try to configure the nth+1 adapter, you get an error message.


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True, I've been at curstomers where there was a maximum of 2 adapters. Also active reports, visual discovery etc needs extra licensing. For XFOCUS there isn't.

Anyway, I made some performance improvement by making a multi column index (B tree) which made it faster (5 minutes to 40 seconds).

Then I dumped 8 million records in an indexed FOCUS file and my request only took 4 seconds Cool

John, there are no bitmapped indexes at the moment, only single column B tree indexes.


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