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Francis Mariani
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Has anyone found any documentation regarding ibirls2.js?

I scanned my collection of 300MB of PDF documentation for v7.6 and found nothing. Neither did I find anything on the IB documentation website.

Thanks,

Francis.

(I have renamed the posting title from "ibirls2.js documentation" to "IBI Supplied/Created JavaScript - documentation" to better reflect what I am looking for)

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This is correct, since the js is an internal IBI proprietary file. There is no public documentation available on it.


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Ramkumar - Webfous
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Hi Francis,

You may raise this to techsupport on this.

Atleast a high level documentation on the list of functions and their purpose will be helpful.

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Francis Mariani
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Gamp, don't you think we need to understand this
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GamP
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I think it would be wise when IB, in view of the amount of threads on this subject lately, would publicize at least a functional overview of what these javascript files do. So yes, I agree that some doc at least is needed. And that is not limited to ibirls2.js ...


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dhagen
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Why would you need to understand this?


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Francis Mariani
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Maybe because if I open the simplest 7.6.8 designed screen in 7.7.02 it breaks. I'm trying to figure out why.


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Francis Mariani
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Perhaps my post title is wrong - I would like to understand ALL IBI supplied JavaScript so that I can be sure that I don't cripple a GUI-designed HTML form.

In http://forums.informationbuild...461084762#8461084762 Bob Jude Ferrante mentions ibiValidate.js - is this documented anywhere.

I know all about validating HTML forms, I'd like to try doing this within the GUI.


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We do not document HTML Composer runtime because it is for internal use only and the HTML the HTML Composer generates uses it.


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Francis Mariani
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David, thank you for your response, but this doesn't really answer my question. I will revise the question: How does one add form validation to an HTML Composer created page? Is this documented anywhere?

Thank you very much,


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David Glick
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Francis,

It is nor documented because we do not support it. Please open a new feature request with Customer Support Services so it can be addressed in a future releaase.

Thanks.


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Francis Mariani
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Information Builders does not support forms validation in an HTML Composer created web page?

So, I can add a bunch of text boxes to a form, but I cannot verify that the user has entered data in those text boxes until after they submit the form?


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Francis, if created in the HTML Composer you can create an exit to vailidate using your own JavaScrpit,
simply by clicking the required event.

If you are using a hand coded HTML page then you naturally code your own.

Please name one alternative BI solution (except hand coded) that even remotly gives you this option.

The IB internal code is only a concern when it prevents your custom functions from working.

That has not normally been seen to occur except when you mod the load functions.

Once the page is loaded any problems are usually down to invalid custom code.

Hundreds of examples of onBlur, onChange etc, scripts are readily available on the open domain
that you can use that allow you to do anything you could possibly dream of.

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Francis Mariani
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if created in the HTML Composer you can create an exit to vailidate using your own JavaScrpit, simply by clicking the required event.

Thanks, this is what I needed, which seems to contradict the previous post. Now, is this documented anywhere?


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There is a big difference between manipulating IBI generated code and adding a function that operates with the generated code.

select your control

click the events tab

select the event type you need i.e onClcik, onBlur etc.

This will generate a function stub in the html code.

add your custom code where indicated.
 
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David Glick
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Francis,

By not supported, I am saying that HTML Composer does not provide any validation routines, and as such, we would not document nor support such a routine. You would need to code your own routine, call it, and support it.


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Francis Mariani
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According to Bob Jude Ferrante, there is ibivalidate. If only it was documented.


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Francis Mariani
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dhagen provided some very valuable documentation at this post ibiValidate Documentation. Maybe this should be put in a formal document...

Unfortunately, if you want to do deeper validation, verifying the selected values of two form objects, for example, I don't think this will help.


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David Glick
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Francis,

ibivalidate is part of the Maintain product. It is not for use with HTML Composer. There is a new feature request for HTML Composer to have validation routines, but it has not been implemented yet.


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David, If ibiValidate is part of the Maintain product, then why is there a separate script for maintain?

/ibi/html/js/ibiValidate.js
/ibi/html/maint/mntFormValidate.js

Are you saying that we are not allowed to use this javascript library ?


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Francis Mariani
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The use of this library was suggested by two IBI experts in this forum, neither mentioned that is was to be used for Maintain only.


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Waz
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Yes, I know.

Hence the question.

It would be nice if the library had a line it saying what it was related to, say a comment
quote:
//MAINTAIN Only


or

quote:
//WebFOCUS use allowed


It is very frustrating that the functions are all there and can be easily used, but we don't know if we are allowed to use them.

I am a bit fed up with the Internal Use Only line as well, it just slows everything down.

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ibivalidate.js is not an HTML Composer supplied JavaScript file. The JavaScript files included with the product install are called by what the product generates. They are not meant to be called otherwise unless explicitly documented like the API functions introduced for HTML Composer in release 7702. If you call functions in an internal file, you are likely to experience problems when you upgrade since that internal file is IBI source code and is subject to change between releases. If you need us to supply a function, the way to do it is to open a new feature request, then an API function can be created for your use.


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Francis Mariani
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If you need us to supply a function, the way to do it is to open a new feature request, then an API function can be created for your use.

What is the turnaround time for something like this?


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So we can use these functions without retribution, just the possibility of changes.


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Francis,

The turnaround time depends on how involved the function requested takes to implement and test. I cannot provide you a set rule.


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