Hi Team,

I'm investigating different styling options for my latest client, and have some questions about the Style Sheet options available.

There seems to be a matching CSS and WF Style Sheet from 01 to 05. For instance, pmf_uistyle04 goes perfectly with WF style sheet 04 (black) and pmf_uistyle05 goes perfectly with WF style sheet 05 (dark blue). However, the WF style sheets 06 to 11 all seem to be the same. I looked in the manual, and this is what it says:

Set 01. Uses 10 point Sans-Serif font to provide good readability and
compatibility with the ISO shapes, ISO signs, 3-D, and Few indicator
sets. The default is Set 01.
Set 02. Uses 8 point Sans-Serif font to provide much denser
information on-screen (with slightly less readability) and is compatible
with the Glass indicator set.
Set 03. White, silver, black. Uses Set 01 specifications.   
Set 04. Black (Hitech). Uses Set 02 specifications.
Set 05. Blue (Hitech). Uses Set 02 specifications.
Set 06. Orange (Hitech). Uses Set 02 specifications.
Set 07. Corporate blue. Uses Set 02 specifications.

This indicates to me that 06 should match the Orange CSS, although it does not. Furthermore, there are 11 CSS files and 11 WF Style Sheet options, but the manual omits mention of 8-11. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd mention it while I'm on the topic.

What do you think? I'm leaning towards the WF Style Sheets 6-11 not working as designed.

Cheers,

Joey

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Moogle,

Funny, we use them all the time, and they all match up to our eyes.

You're welcome to create your own - anyone can - but we now recommend you number yours at 81 or higher, because a bunch more are about to be added in the 5.3.0 series.

Hope you had a nice thanksgiving... surprised to see a posting on a holiday weekend, but glad you're working so hard!

thanks

Moogle is in Montreal. The whole world didn't have a holiday this week. Them Vikings arrived in North America 500 years or so ahead of the guys in the black hats anyway ...

Hi Bob,

I wonder specifically about:

   
Set 06 Orange (Hitech). Uses Set 02 specifications.  

There's a CSS (pmf_uistyle06) that makes the PMF UI orange. The WF style sheet 06 does not make reports and gadgets a matching orange; rather they have a light grey background.

I'm assure you that I'm not wasting anyone's time critiquing style choices, as that is totally subjective. What I'm talking about is that if you pick, for instance, 05 CSS and 05 WF Style Sheet, you get gadget content that seems to float elegantly on a dashboard. If you pick the Orange ones, you get gadgets that are surrounded by grey blocks; incongruous. Based on the description in the documentation, it seems reasonable that the WF style sheet would incorporate orange into the styling.

WF Style Sheets 6-11 seem identical. I carefully compared the output for each, and it's the same, or appears the same. If this is working as designed, I obviously accept that, but I wonder about it.

I am very excited to see PMF 5.3, and 80 new styling options is going to go a long way towards ensuring adoption at my current and future clients. I'm especially looking forward to easier to read fonts (white font on a grey background is a tough one, for instance). Perhaps I'm getting old, but I prefer to have text jump out at me without straining.

George is correct, Canadian Thanksgiving was weeks ago, and it's not 1/4 of the party that is US Thanksgiving. I'm surprised to find myself working in Canada for a change, keeping Canadian hours.

Cheers,

Joey

When I run 06 with the 06 WebFOCUS style sheet, I do indeed see orange backgrounded reports and charts and gadgets.

The grey design elements are part of the style; they complement the orange. The color palette done by Liza for 06 was Orange, with superimposed grey and white design elements in reports, and text in complementary grey, black text and white. It all holds together properly.

Hey, I'm not crazy about orange, I prefer 04 ("After Hours") and 08 ("IBI blue") but some people swear by it. As the Latin says, de gustibus non disputandem - if you don't like the 11 style sheets be our guest, design new ones that you like. But please use 81 and higher for your custom sheets, to avoid our new sheets colliding with your numbering.

best

"De gustibus non est disputandum" - This bus is drafty and you can't deny it !

You made me do a coffee spit-take!
And thanks for correcting my rusty Latin.
:-)