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[SOLVED] Collaborative Portals and Parameter Pages

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April 20, 2018, 01:35 PM
Doug
[SOLVED] Collaborative Portals and Parameter Pages
Let's see who else had/has this issue and who has/can resolve it.

The Setup: I created a Parameter Page in App Studio intended for use in a collaborative portal.
* This has has two radio buttons (columns = number of items available), drop down lists, a 'Submit' button set to 'Refresh' / 'Refresh BI Portal' / 'Current page only', and a reset button. This seems to be fine.

I want it to span the top row (panel 1), say 10%, with the next three rows (panels 2-4) set to 30% each.

The Issue: The drop down lists are longer than the the height of the top row, 10%, thus they are useless.

Solution: TBD. How can I expose the complete contents of these drop down lists? Something like 'bring forward'.?

I know that I can make the Parameter Page 'vertical' rather than 'horizontal'. But that's 'not acceptable to the users'.

Thanks in advance, Doug

Extra credit: drop down lists that are set to multi-select appear differently than their single-select counterparts.

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April 20, 2018, 03:00 PM
FP Mod Chuck
Doug

Not sure which version you are using for this.. But, there is a new feature in 8.2.02 to allow these drop down lists to Pop-Up. I don't know if they will display outside the boundaries though...


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April 20, 2018, 04:15 PM
CoolGuy
How did you go about creating your filtering within AppStudio? You'll want to make sure you create them via the Requests & Data Sources panel's New > Requests > Parameters > Filter Panel option. This way the controls aren't bound within the iFrame like in previous releases, insomuch that a long drop-down will float over it's parent container bounds.


8.2.02M (production), 8.2.02M (test), Windows 10, all outputs.
April 20, 2018, 05:09 PM
Doug
FP Mod Chuck, WebFOCUS 8202M

I guess my signature is too busy...

CoolGuy, The parm page was created in the HTML composer. Then I added three panels, one for each row of outputs (fexes).

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April 20, 2018, 05:21 PM
CoolGuy
So, you are attempting to use AppStudio's HTMLComposter tool for the actual page as well as your filters then. Sorry, I didn't catch on to that. My suggestion: Don't. Our site only ever uses that tool for filters now. I would drop your filters made in AppStudio's HTMLComposter tool into a page template from within the WF Home screen's Page Designer tool (not the new WF Designer product, but the Portal Page designer). That's how we do it, and it works great.


8.2.02M (production), 8.2.02M (test), Windows 10, all outputs.
April 20, 2018, 05:24 PM
Doug
That sounds great. I'll shoot for that. You going to Summit. I'm planning on it.
April 20, 2018, 05:31 PM
CoolGuy
We were up till yesterday, when we found out we weren't approved to go. Enjoy your time there! Should be a great year from what I've heard thus far.


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April 20, 2018, 06:14 PM
Doug
Another Ata Boy for CoolGuy. The filter panel just may workout for me.
April 23, 2018, 09:05 AM
Doug
Thanks CoolGuy, You Made my day.

The creation and use of a "Filter Page" works wonder.

BTW: Complete portal was done with No Need for Any JavaScript. Oh Happy Day.
April 23, 2018, 11:13 AM
CoolGuy
Glad to help. This way of doing it is just way better than ever attempting to use the HTML Cantvas tool in AppStudio for it. It's good for filter creation, but past that? Nope.


8.2.02M (production), 8.2.02M (test), Windows 10, all outputs.
April 23, 2018, 01:09 PM
Doug
... Just need to remember to add all variables and procedures to the Parameter Setting in the Filter Page.




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August 16, 2018, 04:54 PM
BKinPA
Hi Doug and Cool Guy

We have a similar setup in that a filter panel was created in the App Studio HTML composer and is being used in an 8.2 responsive portal (not a collab portal). The issue we are facing is the time it takes to populate in the filter panel.

For the larger dropdown lists, we are pointing to a FOCUS table that is refreshed each night and contains the data needed to populate the dropdown.

The reports and charts within the portal respond quickly when the parameters are changed. It is the initial loading of the filter panel itself that is slow.

The filter panel is set to refresh the current page only but the same filter panel is used on multiple portal pages (Users want to filter each page independently). We also have a lag when switching between portal pages.

Do you have any tips or best practices we may have overlooked?

Appreciate any insights.

Thanks,
Barb


WebFocus 8.1.05, 8.2.01
August 20, 2018, 09:45 AM
Doug
Barb, tips or best practices: It depends on where your source data resides. What I have found to be the best solution is to bring only the required fields from the remote source down to a FOCUS file in the associated App Folder and use that for the source of the drilldowns.

Others may have alternatives. I'm always eager to learn from them about their thoughts and alternatives.
August 20, 2018, 11:38 AM
CoolGuy
Barb,

As Doug reiterated, and you said you were doing already, if you can hit a smaller subset of data specific to the drop-downs needing loading within a pre-loaded FOCUS data set, that sometimes helps. How large of a list is your drop-down? Can it be broken up somehow into smaller pieces? What's your queries/code look like that populate the drop-downs? Maybe there's something that can be optimized? Also, where is it being pulled from? A huge detail-level data set or something that has been cleaned up and optimized for fast retrieval? Like can you create another source data set that's rolled up somehow before bringing it into the BI environment?


8.2.02M (production), 8.2.02M (test), Windows 10, all outputs.
August 20, 2018, 04:15 PM
BKinPA
Hello-

Thanks for the replies. For the larger dropdowns, I used the Requests and Datasouces tab to include the FOCUS datasouces that are limited to the specific fields. For the combo boxes, in the Settings tab, I pointed to the FOCUS data source as the default and referenced the specific column.

What impact, if any, does checking the 'Cache Runtime Data' on the Settings tab have for the comboboxes?


WebFocus 8.1.05, 8.2.01
August 21, 2018, 11:21 AM
CoolGuy
Never used it before, but always good to test it out and see what break...happens. Wink


8.2.02M (production), 8.2.02M (test), Windows 10, all outputs.
August 22, 2018, 04:33 PM
BKinPA
LOL.that's usually my approach, let's see what happens if... In this case, no noticeable difference with or without it checked


WebFocus 8.1.05, 8.2.01
August 22, 2018, 06:06 PM
CoolGuy
That's no fun. Best of luck!


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