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[SOLVED] SET ASNAMES=FLIP

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June 22, 2017, 06:58 AM
Danny-SRL
[SOLVED] SET ASNAMES=FLIP
The documentation states:
FLIP
Propagates the field names in the original Master File to the alias names in the HOLD Master File and the alias names in the original Master File to the field names in the HOLD Master File.

So, I tried using CAR
FIELDNAME=COUNTRY,COUNTRY,A10,FIELDTYPE=I,$
...
FIELDNAME=SALES,UNITS,I6,$

  
SET ASNAMES=FLIP
TABLE FILE CAR
PRINT COUNTRY 
SALES 
ON TABLE HOLD
END

And the HOLD master is:
  
FILENAME=HOLD    , SUFFIX=FIX     , IOTYPE=BINARY, $
SEGMENT=HOLD, SEGTYPE=S0, $
FIELDNAME=F01, ALIAS=COUNTRY, USAGE=A10, ACTUAL=A12, $
FIELDNAME=F02, ALIAS=SALES, USAGE=I6, ACTUAL=I04, $

What are those Fnn fields?
Confused Mad Music

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Daniel
In Focus since 1982
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June 22, 2017, 08:05 AM
MartinY
From Controlling Attributes in HOLD Master Files

in section : Example: Generating a HOLD File With SET ASNAMES=FLIP
Changing SET ASNAMES to FLIP propagates the AS name SALARY to the alias name in the HOLD Master File. In the ALPHA HOLD file, the other field names have been propagated to the alias names in the HOLD Master File, and default field names have been generated: 
FILENAME=HOLD    , SUFFIX=FIX     , IOTYPE=STREAM, $
  SEGMENT=HOLD, SEGTYPE=S1, $
    FIELDNAME=F01, ALIAS=DEPARTMENT, USAGE=A10, ACTUAL=A10, $
    FIELDNAME=F02, ALIAS=SALARY, USAGE=D12.2M, ACTUAL=A12, $
    FIELDNAME=F03, ALIAS=PCT_INC, USAGE=F6.2, ACTUAL=A06, $


the HOLD Master File, and default field names have been generated


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June 22, 2017, 09:47 AM
Danny-SRL
Martin,

Hence one should not stop at the definition but look for details...
What can I say? Isn't this misleading?


Definition
ASNAMES=FLIP
Propagates the field names in the original Master File to the alias names in the HOLD Master File and the alias names in the original Master File to the field names in the HOLD Master File.

This seems straightforward enough, wouldn't you say?

Then an example:
When you set the ASNAMES parameter to FLIP, for relational HOLD files, the field names from the original Master File or the AS names specified in the request become the alias names in the HOLD Master File as well as the column names in the generated relational table and the TITLE attributes in the HOLD Master File. The alias names in the original Master File become the field names in the HOLD Master File, except when there is an AS name, in which case the original field name becomes the HOLD field name.

And suddenly an exception:
For SET ASNAMES=FLIP, for non-relational HOLD files, the field names from the original Master File or the AS names from the request become the alias names in the HOLD Master File, and default field names are generated in the form F01, F02, and so on.

Why, oh why? What is the rationale?


Daniel
In Focus since 1982
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June 22, 2017, 10:04 AM
MartinY
I'm speechless...
Isn't it one of the great Focus mysteries ?...
Confused Sweating Music


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June 22, 2017, 05:16 PM
Waz
quote:
Why, oh why? What is the rationale?


My guess is that one (high paying) customer requested it for some reason.

And to be honest, having all the field names changes to Fnn could be useful in some circumstances.


Waz...

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June 23, 2017, 02:35 AM
Danny-SRL
quote:
having all the field names changes to Fnn could be useful in some circumstances

In that case why not having FLIP and FLIPF, and let the user decide?


Daniel
In Focus since 1982
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June 26, 2017, 01:55 PM
FP Mod Chuck
Danny

This is just an observation if you just have SET ASNAMES=ON the FIELDNAME in the hold file master is the name used in the AS but the ALIAS fields are name E01, E02 etc so not sure why it uses F01 (maybe for Flip) but it is consistent with how the product has always worked.

Regards


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June 27, 2017, 08:39 AM
Danny-SRL
Chuck,
Way back then, when SET ASNAMES did not exist, one needed the Enn fields when the request used ACROSS (or a multi-set request) to distinguish between columns holding data from the same field.
When SET ASNAMES=ON came along, the Enn fields stayed, by inertia.
Now that we have this new feature SET ASNAMES=FLIP, the Fnn is quite unnecessary. At least give the user the choice, wouldn't you say?


Daniel
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June 27, 2017, 10:51 AM
FP Mod Chuck
Hi Danny

Yes I would agree with you. Can you please submit a new feature request via techsupport for it to happen.


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