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Francis Mariani
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In one week we had:

1) a Portal disappeared - inadvertently deleted
2) a Content Folder disappeared - inadvertently moved
3) a Security Group disappeared - inadvertently moved

This from experienced developers (not users) simply browsing in the "default" WebFOCUS page.

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Francis


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Ram Prasad E
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quote:
peared

quote:
Content Folder disappeared - inadvertently moved


Yes, I do face this issue. When user clicks on a content folder and drags under anyother folder, it simply moves the folder without even asking for any confirmation. Someone moved RC folder under different parent folder and we spent more than 5 hours to find that there was a change in directory path.

Thanks,
Ram


WebFOCUS 8.1.05
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/ibi.webfocus/
 
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SSander
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quote:
Originally posted by Francis Mariani:

2) a Content Folder disappeared - inadvertently moved

Done that - Deleted whole "Production area" after that stripped myself from administration rights.


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Tony A
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I believe that this is being addressed?

In the interim check the audit.log under WebFOCUS80\logs.

T


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Mike in DeLand
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Same here - user moved the library content folder or something like that - and everyone's report library vanished.

That's when I got management to spend a couple of dollars on training and we took 2 security courses.


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CLH
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Hi,

We have had the moving folders happen in our environments also. Trying to find where they went so they can be moved back was time-consuming the first time, but then I wrote a fex to read the wf_reposobj table where condition is a contains on what got moved results are where it is currently.
Saves us time because it seems like something gets accidently moved in one of our environments around once a month. We have put in a NFR for a warning message

Crystal


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MartinY
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CLH, can you share your code ?


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CLH
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Sure

TABLE FILE WF_REPOSOBJ
PRINT
HANDLE
EXT_ID
LASTACCESSBY
LASTMODBY
BY PRT_PATH
BY OBJNAME
-*WHERE PRT_PATH CONTAINS 'partofpath';
-*WHERE CREATEDBY EQ 'userid'
WHERE OBJNAME CONTAINS 'reportname' ;
-*WHERE EXT_ID EQ 'scheduleid';
-*WHERE HANDLE CONTAINS 'something';
END

Various wheres are dependent on what we know about the code before it was moved.

Crystal


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Francis Mariani
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In all these cases, no one actually intended to move anything - the thing just moved. Why no one thought of adding an alert "Do you really want to..." is beyond me. Meanwhile, yesterday, one experienced developer (not user) had 6 folders move around while browsing the Report Caster Explorer which is a slow beast. Little did I know that a folder moved in the Report Caster Explorer moves all the content, not just schedules.


Francis


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Tony A
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As mentioned above, you could run a report against the audit log to trap items that have been moved (purposefully or otherwise) and then have that information available quickly in case someone phones the helpdesk and says "my content has gone".

Not the ideal situation but until the NFR that CLH mentions is evaluated and dealt with (I know of others who have raised this or a similar NFR) it might enable you to be proactive?

Sample code, check for WHERE OPERATION EQ 'moveItem' I think -

FILEDEF auditlog DISK c:\ibi\webfocus80\logs\audit.log
EX -LINES * EDAPUT MASTER,auditlog,CF,MEM,FILENAME=auditlog, SUFFIX=FIX,$
SEGNAME=SEG01, SEGTYPE=S0, $
FIELD=FILLER1,  ,A1, A1, $
FIELD=DATETIME, ,A19, A19, $
FIELD=FILLER2,  ,A6, A6, $
FIELD=LINETYPE  ,A6, A6, $
FIELD=ACTION    ,A17, A17, $
FIELD=MONITORID ,A17, A17, $
FIELD=LOGLINE,  ,A200, A200, $
DEFINE LOGTIME/HYYMDS = HINPUT(19, DATETIME, 8, 'HYYMDS');$
DEFINE USERID/A12 = GETTOK(LOGLINE, 200, 1, ' ', 12, 'A12');$
DEFINE OPERATION/A30 = GETTOK(LOGLINE, 200, 2, ' ', 30, 'A30');$
DEFINE STATUS/A10 = GETTOK(LOGLINE, 200, 3, ' ', 10, 'A10');$
DEFINE OPERATOR/A20 = GETTOK(LOGLINE, 200, 4, ' ', 20, 'A20');$
DEFINE PARMSTR/A100 = GETTOK(LOGLINE, 200, 5, ' ', 100, 'A100');$
EDAPUT*

TABLE FILE auditlog
PRINT LINETYPE
      ACTION
      USERID
      OPERATION
      STATUS
      OPERATOR
      PARMSTR
   BY LOGTIME
IF RECORDLIMIT EQ 100
END
-RUN

T


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Håkan
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Francis, we have also experienced this behaviour and there is a patch for it (at least for 8.0.06). The patch ask you to confirm that you want to move the item.

Rgds


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TomS.
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There are also security settings in the roles you can edit to not allow users to edit (move) resources.


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Francis Mariani
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NFR

Tony, I'm sorry, but you must have drunk the Kool-Aid if you believe it takes an NFR to fix this... This is a bug.

Tom, I always state "developers (not users)" because I feel IBI does not believe that developers work with WebFOCUS. This bug occurs while experienced developers (not users) are browsing content. This is a bug - it certainly never happened in WF 7 and WF 5. In those versions, you intentionally had to move folders.

Interestingly, we haven't yet found the magic set of security permissions that will allow experienced developers (not users) to do their job and also prevent them from accidentally moving folders because the html interface is buggy.


Francis


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Francis Mariani
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Apparently there's a patch for this.

When WebFOCUS 8.0.08 was installed the Build/GEN Number was 19. Now that a patch was applied, the GEN Number is 132. I don't have a clue what the patch is, but we are told that it corrects the moving folder issue.


Francis


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Jay Potter
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Well then it is broke in 8.0.9 because it just happened to me. I was able to move a folder just under the "Content" folder, but when I saw it happen I couldn't move it back. I didn't have the authority. An administrator moved it back. Now I can't create new fexes under the folder, but I can edit existing ones. We are having problems seeing what security has charged.

Any ideas?


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Francis Mariani
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And despite some patch being applied and people cheering, it is still happening. Back to the drawing board.


Francis


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Francis Mariani
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Apparently the patch has something to do with the timing of cursor clicks/drags/moves on a Bindows window but it ain't working.


Francis


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Jay Potter
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They have a partial fix for this in 8.1.3. This is from the new features in 8.1.3.

Confirmation Message When Moving Folders
You can set the IBI_Move_Confirmation_Message parameter to specify whether WebFOCUS will
request confirmation when a user moves a folder using a drag-and-drop operation. The default
value is False.
For more information, see the WebFOCUS Security and Administration manual.


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Francis Mariani
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Jay, thanks for the update. I don't think we'll be graduating to 8.1.03 for quite a while. We use Zabbix for performance monitoring and we've configured it to trigger an email when a "move folder" occurred in the WF log.

BTW, "user" oriented again, not "developer"...

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Francis


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Kevin W
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We have changed our upgrade recently from 7705 to 8103 rather than 8009. Now it feels like we are helping beta test 8103. Hopefully we will help IBI attain stability with 8103. IMHO at this point, if you can afford to wait then continue to wait for an all clear.


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Francis Mariani
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We're holding at v8.0.08, so thanks very much for the QA testing on v8.1.03. See you on the other side of the cliff.


Francis


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Winfred Gunter
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Francis,

This is fixed, somewhat. I requested an additional feature to confirm a drag/drop issue.
So, this is a new setting in wf admin. Default is unchecked. If you check it, you go get a confirmation prompt.

It has stopped a lot of our mysterious folder "moves".

Implemented in 8009.

--wg


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Francis Mariani
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Winfred, thank you for taking the initiative. I do think it's ludicrous that it's labelled a "new feature" - nice way to disguise a bug.

This inadvertent folder move appears to be instantaneous, while simply adding a task to a Report Caster schedule or switching Portals is stickily slow...


Francis


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Håkan
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Francis, a feature is "a bug as described by the Marketing Department". To be honest, IBI are not the only offenders.

Håkan


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Francis Mariani
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Håkan, I know, even the almighty Apple machine is full of holes - the emperor has no clothes.


Francis


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Michael C.
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Even with some of the recent settings and fixes in place, inadvertent migrations can occur on ver. 8.0.08

After identifying WHERE the content folder is residing.

1) create back-up/copy said folder (double check to make sure all content was created)

2) CUT the folder

3) PASTE it into original location

Depending on how much content is in the folder, the back-up process can take more time than steps 2-3.
You can save some time by not making a back-up but we all know the risks.


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Kevin W
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I too attended the special meeting at Summit 2015. My problem is with legacy HTML code during an upgrade (and all legacy code, but HTML had the most issues). We had to "upgrade" the HTML by opening, rebinding, and closing it through two iterations of studio and the results still didn't always work properly. So editing was required to get it all (mostly) working. So we need an editor as well as an upgrade tool to more cleanly migrate HTML during upgrades. Recreating everything with the new version of WF wasn't an option. Dashboards to Portals will be a follow-on to the upgrade. New stuff in general seems to work prettty well in its own new world, but I'm betting some tweaking will be required. It almost always is. I too vote for better editing tools for advanced users.


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Jay Potter
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quote:
Originally posted by Winfred Gunter:
Francis,

This is fixed, somewhat. I requested an additional feature to confirm a drag/drop issue.
So, this is a new setting in wf admin. Default is unchecked. If you check it, you go get a confirmation prompt.

It has stopped a lot of our mysterious folder "moves".

Implemented in 8009.

Do you know what the parameter name is and under what section?

--wg


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Jay Potter
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I think I just found it.

IBI_Move_Confirmation_Message underConfiguration - Other settings


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