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| Virtuoso |
Shyam, By default, HOLD files are saved on disk in a temporary directory. That is, unless they are directed to a fixed directory. This can be the case if you have a SET TEMP command or a APP HOLD command, either in your procedures or in the profile (usually EDASPROF.prf). I suggest you check that. Daniel In Focus since 1982 wf 8.202M/Win10/IIS/SSA - WrapApp Front End for WF | |||
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| <Shyam L> |
Danny, Thanks for the post. We are not explicitly storing the hold files. Its in temporary space only. What I would like to know is whether the hold file would get overwritten in the case I mentioned above. | ||
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| Gold member |
AFAIK...they would overwrite each other. We try to use the user logon ID to create unique hold files on each pass - or job specific holds if they are not run by users. 81.05 All formats | |||
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| Virtuoso |
Shyam, It shouldn't. Normally all HOLD files, and their MASTERs are put into temporary directories, different for each task, which get erased when the task finishes. If you are experiencing this problem, it means that a HLD.mas file exists somewhere in the path of P1, before the HLD that P1 created. Because later on the job ran well, it shows that the damaging HLD.mas was erased. I would look at that. Daniel In Focus since 1982 wf 8.202M/Win10/IIS/SSA - WrapApp Front End for WF | |||
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| Guru |
Hi, Using the same Hold file name will lead to situation like the one you are encountering unless you specify a different temporary directory during the creation. Regards. WebFocus 7.6.5 AND WebLogic server as web server sql2005 as database server | |||
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| <Shyam L> |
Thanks Danny....The 2 jobs started at the sametime barring a few seconds difference. Danny, what can we do to ensure that any pre-existing hold files are erased from temporary memory?This message has been edited. Last edited by: <Shyam L>, | ||
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| <Shyam L> |
Majid, Do u mean to say that the hold file creation is not task specific as mentioned above? | ||
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| Virtuoso |
Shyam, I would check to see where the HOLD files are placed. You can do this as follows: TABLE FILE CAR BY COUNTRY ON TABLE HOLD END -RUN ? FILEDEF You should see something like this: 0 NUMBER OF RECORDS IN TABLE= 5 LINES= 5 Lname Device Lrecl Recfm Append Filename ============================================================ HOLD DISK 24 F C:\ibi\srv76\wfs\edatemp\ts000 001\hold.ftm HOLDMAST DISK 0 V C:\ibi\srv76\wfs\edatemp\ts000 001\holdmast.mas A bit different in Unix, but basically the same. Normally each task gets a different directory (ts000001, ts000002 etc). When the task finishes, the directory is deleted by WF. Try my example and see what you get. Daniel In Focus since 1982 wf 8.202M/Win10/IIS/SSA - WrapApp Front End for WF | |||
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| Virtuoso |
Daniel is correct. Two separate jobs in RC will NOT affect each other unless they are operating against files that are explicity placed in a common location. Each job uses its own agent on the WF server, which accesses its unique temporary directory, and those files, automatically by default, are erased after the job completes (unless you have set TEMPERASE=OFF). The ? FILEDEF will tell you where the data you are using is located. You can do a WHENCE masterfilename MASTER to tell you the location of the MFD that is being used. Regards, Darin In FOCUS since 1991 WF Server: 7.7.04 on Linux and Z/OS, ReportCaster, Self-Service, MRE, Java, Flex Data: DB2/UDB, Adabas, SQL Server Output: HTML,PDF,EXL2K/07, PS, AHTML, Flex WF Client: 77 on Linux w/Tomcat | |||
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| <Shyam L> |
Thanks Darin and Daniel for the information. I will figure that out and to be on the safer side use different hold file names in procedures. | ||
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| Expert |
Shyam, One other thing you might check, as the comments above are true and the two jobs won't affect each other as they run in separate edatemp directories, is that you might have a hold master tucked away in a directory on the application path where the failing one is looking. WF will look at that one first. Even after 24 years of working with FOCUS, I got burned by that this week. Ginny --------------------------------- Prod: WF 7.7.01 Dev: WF 7.6.9-11 Admin, MRE,self-service; adapters: Teradata, DB2, Oracle, SQL Server, Essbase, ESRI, FlexEnable, Google | |||
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| <Shyam L> |
Ginny, I didnt get you when u said "you might have a hold master tucked away in a directory on the application path where the failing one is looking". Did u mean to say that the temporary master file didnt get deleted and it might have existed as a Master? | ||
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What I meant was that if a fex in the past had done an APP HOLD or APP HOLDMETA, a hold master might have been stored in the application path making it a permanent master. And it might be being found by your program. Just do a scan on ibi/apps to see if there is one. Just to reiterate, if you do not have APP HOLD, your hold files will always be stored in an edatemp directory and be deleted at the end of your job. There should be no conflict. Ginny --------------------------------- Prod: WF 7.7.01 Dev: WF 7.6.9-11 Admin, MRE,self-service; adapters: Teradata, DB2, Oracle, SQL Server, Essbase, ESRI, FlexEnable, Google | |||
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| <Shyam L> |
Ginny, In our case we are not using APP HOLD. Still we were getting the issue. Through these discussions so many other things u get to learn, so that helps. | ||
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| Virtuoso |
Inserting WHENCE P1 MASTER before the TABLE... will reveal where the mfd that the agent is using resides. - Jack Gross WF through 8.1.05 | |||
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| <Shyam L> |
Thanks Jack..will do that | ||
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